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Welcome from Roy to the de Lacy website I do hope that you find your visit both enjoyable and informative. It appeared evident that I should compliment the book 'de Lacy Chronicles' with a follow on experience for readers, bringing life and colour to not only this incredible saga, but to all who inherited in all its forms the name Lacy. The website, however, is taking on a life of its own as a rallying point for de Lacy's worldwide to come together. Our newest inclusion for 2017 is a de Lacy Chronicles Facebook page. I do hope you decide to join and share to other Lacy family members or with friends you may have who share your interest in the Medieval history of the Normans. Please make use of the opportunity to join with me in contributing to the growth of knowledge about the de Lacy family name. There are a number of places on the site where you can leave a comment, review or question; all will receive a responce. If you feel you wish to offer a longer piece, perhaps referring to a Lacy castle or historical fact you can submit up to 500 words from the same comment box. Roy A Lacy. Are you based within the
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Bruce Mitton, Florida, USA 19th Feb 2018
I am Bruce Mitton, direct descendent of “Ralph the Red” of now Great Mitton near Clitheroe. Ralph the Red is the primogeniture of the de Mitton family and the illigetimate son (by a probable Saxon mistress) and Rober de Lacy, successor of the first Ilbert de Lacy of the Conquest and Barron of Pontefract castle. Please refer to Elezebeth Ashfords blog of the de Lacy`s as well as my own website “the family de Mitton” for documentation of said. I have several drop downs web pages on the de Lacys and their connections to the de Mittons. These explain as well the loss of their manors with the death of Henry de Lacy 3rd. Earl of Lincoln Feb. 5th, 1311 and the severing of the de Mitton family blood conection to the de Lacys and the eventual demise of the de Lacy Barony, now part of the Duchy of Lancaster.
Roys Reply
Welcome Bruce, I am familiar with your website and the de Mitton story. Your family are mentioned in my book.
I am Bruce Mitton, direct descendent of “Ralph the Red” of now Great Mitton near Clitheroe. Ralph the Red is the primogeniture of the de Mitton family and the illigetimate son (by a probable Saxon mistress) and Rober de Lacy, successor of the first Ilbert de Lacy of the Conquest and Barron of Pontefract castle. Please refer to Elezebeth Ashfords blog of the de Lacy`s as well as my own website “the family de Mitton” for documentation of said. I have several drop downs web pages on the de Lacys and their connections to the de Mittons. These explain as well the loss of their manors with the death of Henry de Lacy 3rd. Earl of Lincoln Feb. 5th, 1311 and the severing of the de Mitton family blood conection to the de Lacys and the eventual demise of the de Lacy Barony, now part of the Duchy of Lancaster.
Roys Reply
Welcome Bruce, I am familiar with your website and the de Mitton story. Your family are mentioned in my book.
Ann Robert Australia Dec 16th 2017
Hello, would you have any information about Jessie Rose Delacy (DOB 1863), daughter of John Delacy. She married my great, great grandfather Ridgeway William Newland in 1885 in the District of Flinders in South Australia. I am interested in her origins, nationality and how she and her father came to South Australia.
Any information would be appreciated.
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Hello, would you have any information about Jessie Rose Delacy (DOB 1863), daughter of John Delacy. She married my great, great grandfather Ridgeway William Newland in 1885 in the District of Flinders in South Australia. I am interested in her origins, nationality and how she and her father came to South Australia.
Any information would be appreciated.
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Ian Lacysmith UK Dec 16th 2017
William Lacy (1837-1897) is my great-great- uncle and emigrated to the USA in 1860. I am looking for the book "Lacy family 1780-1960" written by Elizabeth Madary Sutton and published in 2003 . I am sure it will include William's father Richard Lacy born in Macroom, Cork in 1802 and more of Richard's nine children.
Roys Reply
Any suggestions for Ian. This book is out of print.
William Lacy (1837-1897) is my great-great- uncle and emigrated to the USA in 1860. I am looking for the book "Lacy family 1780-1960" written by Elizabeth Madary Sutton and published in 2003 . I am sure it will include William's father Richard Lacy born in Macroom, Cork in 1802 and more of Richard's nine children.
Roys Reply
Any suggestions for Ian. This book is out of print.
Bob Burston UK May 2nd
It was very interesting to meet you at Longtown Castle recently and to hear of your interest in the de Lacy family.
As you now know I live within Longtown Castle, in the former Victorian school building - built by them from recycled castle !
The view from my bedroom and other windows is Longtown Castle keep and motte with the inner bailey as my garden wall.
A wonderful place to live. Best wishes, Bob.
Roys Reply
So nice to here from you again Bob, Marjorie and I enjoyed our chat when we visited Longtown Castle.
It was very interesting to meet you at Longtown Castle recently and to hear of your interest in the de Lacy family.
As you now know I live within Longtown Castle, in the former Victorian school building - built by them from recycled castle !
The view from my bedroom and other windows is Longtown Castle keep and motte with the inner bailey as my garden wall.
A wonderful place to live. Best wishes, Bob.
Roys Reply
So nice to here from you again Bob, Marjorie and I enjoyed our chat when we visited Longtown Castle.
Janice Williams (maiden name Hobday) UK March 2017 In response to Bill Hobday
I found this website a few days ago, and have ordered a copy of the book. I have been researching the Hobday alias Lacy family of Worcestershire for over five years since discovering the pedigree held in Walsall. Is it possible to contact other people who are researching this family with a view to passing on information; I have managed to find a few wills for the people mentioned on the pedigree.
Roy Reply
Thank you, Janice, for your comment and purchasing the book. I have emailed Bill Hobday that you have left a comment on the page. Your book will be posted Tuesday 21st
I found this website a few days ago, and have ordered a copy of the book. I have been researching the Hobday alias Lacy family of Worcestershire for over five years since discovering the pedigree held in Walsall. Is it possible to contact other people who are researching this family with a view to passing on information; I have managed to find a few wills for the people mentioned on the pedigree.
Roy Reply
Thank you, Janice, for your comment and purchasing the book. I have emailed Bill Hobday that you have left a comment on the page. Your book will be posted Tuesday 21st
Bill Hobday Feb 17th
I recently purchased a copy of your book, de Lacy Chronicles. I found it very informative, and I loved your “timelines” which helped keep things in perspective. Thanks for all the hard work!
While researching my English family, (surname Hobday) I came across an interesting twist, at one time my family's surname was “Hobday alias Lacy”. This occurred somewhat frequently in the 1500’s-late 1600’s, in Worcestershire and Warwickshire, the place of their residence.
I was fortunate to find an original document housed in a local history centre in Walsall which is entitled “The Pedigree of the Ancient family of the Hobday's in Warick and Worcester Shires (from whom The Lacy's of Worcestershire are lineally descended.)
One of the entries had a William Hobdey marrying an Elizabeth Lacy, daughter of John Lacy, Citizen and Clothworker of London. William was from Inkberrow where my family is from. In researching John Lacy, I found that he was a rich merchant, and a “private friend” of Queen Elizabeth I. The Queen in fact ” visited" Lacy on 13 separate occasions over the years, all of them documented.
Roy Reply
Thanks for adding another name linking de Lacy history. I was fascinated at your reference to John Lacy who was accepted at the court of Queen Elizabeth the 1st. The same John Lacy (probably) appears within “the grey years" section of my book being sent to Ireland with terms from the Queen only to find he was negotiating with another John Lacy a staunch Irish catholic.
I recently purchased a copy of your book, de Lacy Chronicles. I found it very informative, and I loved your “timelines” which helped keep things in perspective. Thanks for all the hard work!
While researching my English family, (surname Hobday) I came across an interesting twist, at one time my family's surname was “Hobday alias Lacy”. This occurred somewhat frequently in the 1500’s-late 1600’s, in Worcestershire and Warwickshire, the place of their residence.
I was fortunate to find an original document housed in a local history centre in Walsall which is entitled “The Pedigree of the Ancient family of the Hobday's in Warick and Worcester Shires (from whom The Lacy's of Worcestershire are lineally descended.)
One of the entries had a William Hobdey marrying an Elizabeth Lacy, daughter of John Lacy, Citizen and Clothworker of London. William was from Inkberrow where my family is from. In researching John Lacy, I found that he was a rich merchant, and a “private friend” of Queen Elizabeth I. The Queen in fact ” visited" Lacy on 13 separate occasions over the years, all of them documented.
Roy Reply
Thanks for adding another name linking de Lacy history. I was fascinated at your reference to John Lacy who was accepted at the court of Queen Elizabeth the 1st. The same John Lacy (probably) appears within “the grey years" section of my book being sent to Ireland with terms from the Queen only to find he was negotiating with another John Lacy a staunch Irish catholic.
SENT BY Robert de Lacy Jan 10th Jan 17- Apparently there is a well known brass of Peter Lacey in St Botolph's Church in Northfleet, Kent, dating from 1375. There is mention in the website words below.
Whilst I inherited a small copper simulation of the brass from my parents, who lived just down the road in Meopham, I have never seen the the real full scale thing. Something I plan to remedy soon, next time we are in Kent. Will keep you advised,
Reply from Roy
Yes please do update me when you learn more. The clue as to why this Peter de Lacy did not make his way into my book de Lacy Chronicles can be found in the approximate year of his birth c.1310. Henry de Lacy 3rd Earl of Lincoln died in 1311, without leaving an heir, bringing an end to the de Lacy Baronial line.
There is good evidence that there were many other de Lacy family members of (related) good birth whose family connection goes back to Normandy. It is possible that Peter may have been a son of John de Lacy the illegitimate but much loved son of Henry de Lacy. You will find more information in the ‘Grey years’ of the book. Unfortunately there is usually only scraps or no usable history to work with. However Peter was traceable by his early office as ‘Keeper of the Privy Seal. Here is what I have.
Peter Lacy (c.1310-18 October 1375) was a medieval English Keeper of the Privy Seal.
He started his administrative career as a clerk in the office of Prince Edward, the Black Prince, the eldest son of Edward III. By 1347 he was the Prince's receiver-general, responsible for collecting the income from the Duchy of Cornwall and other estates, much of which was spent He died in 1375 in his Northfleet parish and was buried in St Botolph's Church, Northfleet.
Can anybody else add to this information?
Robert de Lacy 30th Dec 2016
I must congratulate you on compiling such a fascinating book. Well done.
Whilst I have lived 'down south' since 1973, currently in Berkshire, I was born and spent my youth in the East Riding.
I attended Beverley Grammar where my History Master regularly would say "de Lacy - you really ought to trace your name !" Not so easy in those days - and my father was rather reluctant.
So unfortunately it never happened. Consequently having received your book as a Christmas present, I am now looking forward to some detailed reading. Regards Bob de Lacy
Reply from Roy
Not only a de Lacy name but the same name as Baron Robert de Lacy. Thank you for your kind words about the book I hope you find as much enjoyment from this website and the new Facebook page I am launching this coming January.
Whilst I inherited a small copper simulation of the brass from my parents, who lived just down the road in Meopham, I have never seen the the real full scale thing. Something I plan to remedy soon, next time we are in Kent. Will keep you advised,
Reply from Roy
Yes please do update me when you learn more. The clue as to why this Peter de Lacy did not make his way into my book de Lacy Chronicles can be found in the approximate year of his birth c.1310. Henry de Lacy 3rd Earl of Lincoln died in 1311, without leaving an heir, bringing an end to the de Lacy Baronial line.
There is good evidence that there were many other de Lacy family members of (related) good birth whose family connection goes back to Normandy. It is possible that Peter may have been a son of John de Lacy the illegitimate but much loved son of Henry de Lacy. You will find more information in the ‘Grey years’ of the book. Unfortunately there is usually only scraps or no usable history to work with. However Peter was traceable by his early office as ‘Keeper of the Privy Seal. Here is what I have.
Peter Lacy (c.1310-18 October 1375) was a medieval English Keeper of the Privy Seal.
He started his administrative career as a clerk in the office of Prince Edward, the Black Prince, the eldest son of Edward III. By 1347 he was the Prince's receiver-general, responsible for collecting the income from the Duchy of Cornwall and other estates, much of which was spent He died in 1375 in his Northfleet parish and was buried in St Botolph's Church, Northfleet.
Can anybody else add to this information?
Robert de Lacy 30th Dec 2016
I must congratulate you on compiling such a fascinating book. Well done.
Whilst I have lived 'down south' since 1973, currently in Berkshire, I was born and spent my youth in the East Riding.
I attended Beverley Grammar where my History Master regularly would say "de Lacy - you really ought to trace your name !" Not so easy in those days - and my father was rather reluctant.
So unfortunately it never happened. Consequently having received your book as a Christmas present, I am now looking forward to some detailed reading. Regards Bob de Lacy
Reply from Roy
Not only a de Lacy name but the same name as Baron Robert de Lacy. Thank you for your kind words about the book I hope you find as much enjoyment from this website and the new Facebook page I am launching this coming January.
Christopher Alan Lacey Bevan UK. December 2016
My great great Grandmother was Emily Sing Lacey of Gravesend in Kent. I have been to Normandy several times and really love it. I have visited Lassy and spoke to a person in the Mairie (the Village was deserted!) This person knew of no Laceys in the Village and none in the Churchyard which is strange. I am about to do an DNA analysis which might prove interesting.
Reply from Roy
It may well be with the demise of the de Lacy family in 1311 that the Normandy connection diappered leaving only the place name. Let us know how you get on with your DNA test Christopher. There is also a comment from Chris on the family page.
My great great Grandmother was Emily Sing Lacey of Gravesend in Kent. I have been to Normandy several times and really love it. I have visited Lassy and spoke to a person in the Mairie (the Village was deserted!) This person knew of no Laceys in the Village and none in the Churchyard which is strange. I am about to do an DNA analysis which might prove interesting.
Reply from Roy
It may well be with the demise of the de Lacy family in 1311 that the Normandy connection diappered leaving only the place name. Let us know how you get on with your DNA test Christopher. There is also a comment from Chris on the family page.
Jaki Spencer UK. 9/11/16
A Purchase of this book brought me to an author event at our local library, I enjoyed the authors talk about his journey into his family name and the bringing to print this wonderful book including a lovely insight into the historical connection the 'de lacy's' have with Pontefract Castle. A wonderfully presented book in plain English, written paragraphs sectioned for easy to read narrative in clear precise print. Beautifully narrated by the author. The author's in depth research into the 'de lacy' name is very detailed but does not overwhelm the reader with unnecessary facts. He has captured the interest of the 'de lacy descendants' as far away as America and Australia. Some having made their journey to the UK to see where their ancestors lived and died. Certainly a 'must read' for anyone with the Lacy surname to explore their possible links to the Kings, Earls and Barons of Medieval history in England particularly the very strong link to Pontefract Castle in West Yorkshire.
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Reply from Roy Thank you Jaki. Roy 10/11/16
Brian de Lacy USA. 9/11/16
I now live in the USA but was born in South Africa. My father's name was George de Lacy (as was his father's name). My grandfather apparently was a doctor who travelled to SA with the British forces and stayed on. I know little else but am aware of the colorful de Lacy ancestry and would like to learn more. My Dad believed we came from the Irish side of the family but I don't think he had much background on this (he is no longer with us). Your site is a grand effort and I will be keeping an eye on it. Good work.Best regards,Brian de Lacy
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Brian de Lacy 9/11/16 Reply 1
Not knowing your age Brian I may suggest if your Grandfather went to SA with the British army before 1921 he may well have been a serving British Soldier before Independence so could have been Irish? May be a clue for you to follow.
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Dave Wilkinson 3/10/16
Roy this is a really really important book Doris loaned me hers...l read it in one day my wife Ann wants to read it my daughter wants it AND her son and 2 daughters ....You are amazing !!!
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Dave Wilkinson 3/10/16 Reply 1
Thanks Ann & Dave, Their review was received via email...
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A Purchase of this book brought me to an author event at our local library, I enjoyed the authors talk about his journey into his family name and the bringing to print this wonderful book including a lovely insight into the historical connection the 'de lacy's' have with Pontefract Castle. A wonderfully presented book in plain English, written paragraphs sectioned for easy to read narrative in clear precise print. Beautifully narrated by the author. The author's in depth research into the 'de lacy' name is very detailed but does not overwhelm the reader with unnecessary facts. He has captured the interest of the 'de lacy descendants' as far away as America and Australia. Some having made their journey to the UK to see where their ancestors lived and died. Certainly a 'must read' for anyone with the Lacy surname to explore their possible links to the Kings, Earls and Barons of Medieval history in England particularly the very strong link to Pontefract Castle in West Yorkshire.
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Reply from Roy Thank you Jaki. Roy 10/11/16
Brian de Lacy USA. 9/11/16
I now live in the USA but was born in South Africa. My father's name was George de Lacy (as was his father's name). My grandfather apparently was a doctor who travelled to SA with the British forces and stayed on. I know little else but am aware of the colorful de Lacy ancestry and would like to learn more. My Dad believed we came from the Irish side of the family but I don't think he had much background on this (he is no longer with us). Your site is a grand effort and I will be keeping an eye on it. Good work.Best regards,Brian de Lacy
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Brian de Lacy 9/11/16 Reply 1
Not knowing your age Brian I may suggest if your Grandfather went to SA with the British army before 1921 he may well have been a serving British Soldier before Independence so could have been Irish? May be a clue for you to follow.
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Dave Wilkinson 3/10/16
Roy this is a really really important book Doris loaned me hers...l read it in one day my wife Ann wants to read it my daughter wants it AND her son and 2 daughters ....You are amazing !!!
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Dave Wilkinson 3/10/16 Reply 1
Thanks Ann & Dave, Their review was received via email...
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