An Extract from an email to Roy from Mike Feerick: You might find of interest the “Ireland Reaching Out” programme – www.irelandxo.com which I started 10 years ago as a hobby to reunify the Irish Diaspora. We have 150,000 members today and growing.
All the best – and thanks again for your kind note. I live just a few miles from Aughrim and never fail to think of the many men who tragically died there in 1691 (at the Fall of Limerick). It took me five years to write that song – so always pleased to hear someone likes it! 😊
Mike
As a member already of 'Ireland Reaching Out' I can recommend the site to Irish descendants of all names not just Lacy. Tap or Click on the above picture to visit the site.
All the best – and thanks again for your kind note. I live just a few miles from Aughrim and never fail to think of the many men who tragically died there in 1691 (at the Fall of Limerick). It took me five years to write that song – so always pleased to hear someone likes it! 😊
Mike
As a member already of 'Ireland Reaching Out' I can recommend the site to Irish descendants of all names not just Lacy. Tap or Click on the above picture to visit the site.
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Ian Lacy Smith, UK 2th June 2018
I'm buying the "de Lacy Chronicles" as your clear timeline in the Origins confirm my 6% Viking DNA obtained from ancestry.co.uk.
All I need now is for someone to fill in the six centuries between Hugh de Lacy and my great,great,grandfather Richard Lacy born in Macroom ,Cork in 1801 ! Very well done on the excellent additions and reorganisation of your website.
Reply from Roy:
Like many of us including myself Ian, you find yourself in the 'Grey Years' of Lacy history. There is chapter in the book and even more information on the Grey years page here on the site. The more Lacy names, places and dates we can find the more we learn.
I'm buying the "de Lacy Chronicles" as your clear timeline in the Origins confirm my 6% Viking DNA obtained from ancestry.co.uk.
All I need now is for someone to fill in the six centuries between Hugh de Lacy and my great,great,grandfather Richard Lacy born in Macroom ,Cork in 1801 ! Very well done on the excellent additions and reorganisation of your website.
Reply from Roy:
Like many of us including myself Ian, you find yourself in the 'Grey Years' of Lacy history. There is chapter in the book and even more information on the Grey years page here on the site. The more Lacy names, places and dates we can find the more we learn.
Jeanne Lacy West, GA USA 16th June 2018
I noticed a question from Chris Lacy asking for names of Lacy's from the South who fought in the Civil War.
My great grandfather was Jabe Martin Lacy from Crawfordville, Georgia. He served in the 10th Cavalry, Company E, CSA. His father was Pleasant Martin Lacy, and his great grandfather was Archibald Lacy from Va. who fought in the Virginia Line in the Revolution, and
then migrated to Georgia.
Reply from Roy:
Thanks for adding your Cavalry relatives Jeanne, Immediately below is the question from Chris. Can anybody add from either side of the war any other Lacy Civil war veterans.
I noticed a question from Chris Lacy asking for names of Lacy's from the South who fought in the Civil War.
My great grandfather was Jabe Martin Lacy from Crawfordville, Georgia. He served in the 10th Cavalry, Company E, CSA. His father was Pleasant Martin Lacy, and his great grandfather was Archibald Lacy from Va. who fought in the Virginia Line in the Revolution, and
then migrated to Georgia.
Reply from Roy:
Thanks for adding your Cavalry relatives Jeanne, Immediately below is the question from Chris. Can anybody add from either side of the war any other Lacy Civil war veterans.
Chris Lacey, USA 19th May 2018
I am reading your book "de Lacey Chronicles". I saw on back cover you mentioned we had relatives on both sides of Civil War of 1861. I am interested in those relatives names, etc on the Confederate side in the South. Would you have any information or leads regarding this?
Reply from Roy:
As you know my book 'de Lacy Chronicles' covers the greater family right around the world. The only members of the American Confederate Army that I researched were James Horace Lacy and briefly his brother Rev Beverly Tucker Lacy. There will certainly be others and I would suggest you start your research within the State of Virginia. I am putting this on the de Lacy family tree in the hope that another subscriber may be able to help.
I am reading your book "de Lacey Chronicles". I saw on back cover you mentioned we had relatives on both sides of Civil War of 1861. I am interested in those relatives names, etc on the Confederate side in the South. Would you have any information or leads regarding this?
Reply from Roy:
As you know my book 'de Lacy Chronicles' covers the greater family right around the world. The only members of the American Confederate Army that I researched were James Horace Lacy and briefly his brother Rev Beverly Tucker Lacy. There will certainly be others and I would suggest you start your research within the State of Virginia. I am putting this on the de Lacy family tree in the hope that another subscriber may be able to help.
Janice Coleman Evens, Australia 14th May 2018
My father's name was Harold Victor de Lacy Evans and his father's name was Charles Watkin de Lacy Evans.
Reply from Roy
You will find information about the de Lacy Evans branch of the de Lacy family above on this page and within the book 'de Lacy Chronicles'.
Moira Penglase, Australia 10th April 2018.
Wondering if there is a connection William de lacy White born Killarney .Daughter married William Henry Murphy name was Bessie White.She lived in Wangaratta Victoria she died July 1919 buried Lake Cargelligo N.S. W. Bessie had two daughters Elizabeth Winefred and Joan Catherine.
Reply from Roy
Do you know of a William deLacy White,
My father's name was Harold Victor de Lacy Evans and his father's name was Charles Watkin de Lacy Evans.
Reply from Roy
You will find information about the de Lacy Evans branch of the de Lacy family above on this page and within the book 'de Lacy Chronicles'.
Moira Penglase, Australia 10th April 2018.
Wondering if there is a connection William de lacy White born Killarney .Daughter married William Henry Murphy name was Bessie White.She lived in Wangaratta Victoria she died July 1919 buried Lake Cargelligo N.S. W. Bessie had two daughters Elizabeth Winefred and Joan Catherine.
Reply from Roy
Do you know of a William deLacy White,
Brian P.T. Blake, USA 28th Feb 2018
My American Blake Family is descended from Lady Alice de Lacy (1281-1343), the only surviving child of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln and 7th Lord of Bowland, and Margaret Longspee Plantagenet through an illicit liaison with Richard la Parker, a forester of Bowland Forest, Yorkshire (now in Lancashire).
Lady Alice was separated from her husband and Richard, born 1288, was seven years younger, about 21 years old when Alice, 28, conceived their son c.1309. Their union is the only explanation for the designation of Richard Parker of 1630 as a Gateway Ancestor of Baron John de Lacy by the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta.
I have created a chart of the de Lacy-Parker-Blake connection which I shall be happy to send to anyone interested.
Reply from Roy.
Lady Alice lies at the very end of the Ilbert de Lacy Line. Brian offers a chart of his family line back to Alice as shown in his comment.
Carolyn USA 25th Feb 2018
I am trying to trace my Lacey family. I can get back to Joseph I Lacey born in 1803 and died in Charles county MD in 1857. He married Cecelia Rock in 1826. My grand mother always told me the family originated in France but came from Ireland to America. I have also heard they possibly were from VA before settling in MD. I have tried to tie us in with several lines but have hit a wall with this Joseph Lacey and can't go back past him. I was hoping someone might have information that could help. Thank you so much!
Reply from Roy
There was many de Lacy Irish citizens who joined the Irish Brigade in France following the 'Flight of the wild geese', in 1691 eventually some will have returned to Ireland.
Paul de Lacy, Ireland, Jan 28th 2018
Regarding the Tommy De Lacey post in September 2017
Matilda de Lacy (née Fair) is my great-great-grandmother. As mentioned her husband was Christopher. I would love to have information on Christopher's parents.
Their son Thomas had a son, Christopher, born in 1919/1920 who was my grandfather.
Reply from Roy.
Paul I will advise Tommy of your interest also scroll down to Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017
My American Blake Family is descended from Lady Alice de Lacy (1281-1343), the only surviving child of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln and 7th Lord of Bowland, and Margaret Longspee Plantagenet through an illicit liaison with Richard la Parker, a forester of Bowland Forest, Yorkshire (now in Lancashire).
Lady Alice was separated from her husband and Richard, born 1288, was seven years younger, about 21 years old when Alice, 28, conceived their son c.1309. Their union is the only explanation for the designation of Richard Parker of 1630 as a Gateway Ancestor of Baron John de Lacy by the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta.
I have created a chart of the de Lacy-Parker-Blake connection which I shall be happy to send to anyone interested.
Reply from Roy.
Lady Alice lies at the very end of the Ilbert de Lacy Line. Brian offers a chart of his family line back to Alice as shown in his comment.
Carolyn USA 25th Feb 2018
I am trying to trace my Lacey family. I can get back to Joseph I Lacey born in 1803 and died in Charles county MD in 1857. He married Cecelia Rock in 1826. My grand mother always told me the family originated in France but came from Ireland to America. I have also heard they possibly were from VA before settling in MD. I have tried to tie us in with several lines but have hit a wall with this Joseph Lacey and can't go back past him. I was hoping someone might have information that could help. Thank you so much!
Reply from Roy
There was many de Lacy Irish citizens who joined the Irish Brigade in France following the 'Flight of the wild geese', in 1691 eventually some will have returned to Ireland.
Paul de Lacy, Ireland, Jan 28th 2018
Regarding the Tommy De Lacey post in September 2017
Matilda de Lacy (née Fair) is my great-great-grandmother. As mentioned her husband was Christopher. I would love to have information on Christopher's parents.
Their son Thomas had a son, Christopher, born in 1919/1920 who was my grandfather.
Reply from Roy.
Paul I will advise Tommy of your interest also scroll down to Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017
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Chris Lacey Illinois, USA. Dec 27th
I am currently enjoying reading your book "de Lacy Chronicles" which my wife purchased me for Christmas. A fine gift!
You may be interested to know that my father Garland H. Lacey published two books on family history are available.
Ancestors and Descendants of Hiram G. Lacey and Sophia Sell. 1995 Library of Congress Catalog Number 94-79688.
As a descendant I do appreciate reading and learn more of my family history.
Reply from Roy.
Thanks for giving information of your Fathers book.This may help the research of other family members in the States.
Larry King USA November 2017
My connection to the Lacey family is my great grandmother Katherine Lacey who is descended from Richard Lacey, a immigrant from the Isle of Wight.He born in 1735 and died in 1811 in Huntingdon New Jersey U.S.A. Do you have any information on him?Family lore says that his ancestor was a surety of the Magna Charta.Thank You! I like your website.
Reply from Roy.
Hi Larry welcome. The de Lacy you are referring to was Baron John de Lacy his son Edmond followed then Henry de Lacy. Both John and Henry became Earl of Lincoln. When you read the history of Henry there is a reference that might help your search.
Tommy De Lacey September 2017
Firstly, Great work on the site. Reading through the family tree page, I came across a comment from: Joseph de Lacey Ireland, Jan 31st 2017 re his great grandmother Matilda Fair.
I have just started putting together our family tree and discovered some old photos, one is a picture of Matilda Fair circa 1910, with her son Christopher who is my grandfather. Joseph might like to have a copy so please find one attached.
Reply from Roy.
This is getting exciting! First check out 'Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017' shown below. Then check out the three photos my father and General Sir George de Lacy Evens shown above Then Matilda Fair shown here. The de Lacy Chin?
Ian Lacy-Smith, UK July 2017.
Has anyone come across the book "FOLLOWING THE LACY TRAIL" (author unknown but may be American). It contains information on an early Californian entrepreneur William Lacy (1837-1897) and his large family. William emigrated from London to Illinois in 1860 and later moved to California where he became involved in many different ventures.
William was a son of Richard Lacy (1802-1852) of Macroom, Ireland and London who is one of my greatgreatgrandfathers.
Reply from Roy
I was able to verify your facts Ian but was unable to trace the book, shame it sounds interesting. William eventually died in Mexico. My search suggests it was Richard who had the large family.
George Walker, Santa Maria CA. July 2017
Greetings from America! My name is George Walker, I live in Santa Maria CA. My Aunt and Grandmother had recently move close to my home for health reasons, and in their move they had handed over to me a bundle of family trees and history booklets of our family. My grandmother's name is Mary-Lacy, and my Aunt name is Lacy, both had been given my Great Grandmother's maiden name Ethel Lacy. In a booklet, written by my Grandmother's cousin, William Decker, he writes mostly about the Lacy Family lineage in America. But in the first chapter w writes about our family coming from the de Lacy lineage. Starting in Normandy, fighting with William in the battle of Hastings, moving into Ireland with the Norman conquest, and one James de Lacy migrating to Virginia in 1691 after the second siege of Limerick. I was wondering is you had any connection to the families that left to America at that time.
Reply from Roy.
The book 'de Lacy Chronicles' contains details of a James de Lacy of Virginia, but his story is set in 1823-1906. He may be a descendant of your James.
Justin de Lacy, Moorooduc, Victoria, Australia. July 2017
I've just become aware of your site / book / research. I'd like to discover more about my family, in particular how the de Lacy name made it to Australia! One day I'd like to visit the ancestral homeland of my family, and meet family I never knew... Your research will help a lot!
Reply from Roy.
There are clues in all the de Lacy Family Generations. If you can trace if your ancestors, emigrated to Australia, from England or Irelandthis will help you reduce your search area. Good luck.
Bill Hobday UK May12th 2017
During my research, I have come upon different theories regarding the Cromwellbottom line.
One, that they are descended from the original "legitimate" John Lacy through his son Robert de Lacy.
Two, that they are descended from the "illegitimate" John de Lacy.
However, the illegitimate John received a grant of lands in Grantchester. Descendants, such as Edmund and John are listed in various pedigrees for the Lacy's of Grantchester. If this is accurate, then who was the progenitor of the Cromwellbottom line?
The family histories I have read in ancestry.com are all over the place in regard to persons, dates, etc., so a hot spot it remains!
Thanks again for all the researching you have done, you have brought this family back to life.
Reply from Roy
Certainly, you are researching a "Hot Spot" for de Lacy descendants including Henry de Lacy Earl of Lincoln, and your target John de Lacy. However, the coat of Arms does not give conclusive proof. The registration of coats of arms did not start till much later. So someone with a tenuous link may take a fancy to their personal use.
And, how should I react being descended from an illegitimate branch? There is no need to react to historical illegitimacy. This was a big stick created by The Church and Throne to help retain power. Illegitimacy is out of date in a modern secular society.
Janice Williams, UK. April 2017
Congratulations on a well researched and presented history of the de Lacy family. I found it really easy to follow. The Datelines of the various monarchs were very helpful as were the details of each de Lacy mentioned.
After reading your book I want to find out more about John Lacy, Clothworker of London, and a favourite of Queen Elizabeth 1. You mention in your book that he was possibly the John Lacy she sent to Ireland.
Reply from Roy
Thank you for your kind comments on 'de Lacy Chronicles' . Ha's anyone else have any knowledge of John de Lacy? This is a second request for this name in de Lacy history.
Brian Patrick De Lacy, South Africa + Dublin 31st March 17
I am from South Africa. My father's name was James George De Lacy. His grandfather (my great grandfather) was from Ireland and emigrated to South Africa.
My father passed away in the 1980's and I never had the opportunity to get any heritage details from him. My brother James Terrence De Lacy is now living in Dublin and we are trying to get some direction on our heritage.
My fathers father, my grandfather, passed away when my father was 4 years old.
My mother was born in Ireland and emigrated with her family to South Africa when she was in her teens.
In anyone can provide me any info or direction on how to access my De Lacy heritage it will be appreciated.
Reply from Roy,
There are other entries which relate back to Dublin within these comments. ood luck with your search. Please refer back any progress that can be shared.
Lisa Reeves, UK 2nd March 2017
Hi...I have in my family tree a maud de lacy marrying a Richard de fitton.......does anyone know of this is correct and any info on the link with these two families? Thank you.
Reply from Roy,
I have checked out the de Mitton family as the nearest link. I think possibly you have been given wrong dates. There are a number of Maud de Lacy's in the book but none married to a Richard de Fitton. Can anybody help with more information for Lisa?
Question from Bill Hobday Feb 19th
Hi Bill, Your question: He refers to the "Yorkshire" line of Lacy's-could you relate any information you have regarding that line, as it might be a clue to the Northumbrian Lacy's.
The Yorkshire de Lacy's were the ( poorly recorded) descendants of retainers and Knights who came to Pontefract Castle Yorkshire with Ilbert de Lacy from Lassy in Normandy the 1st Baron of the Honour of Pontefract. Unfortunately, the direct descendants of Ilbert came to an end in 1311. Sorry, I can add no more at this stage I will post the question on the de Lacy Family tree page we may both find a response.
Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017 I have read your blog, and it is great. My family are from Dublin, and it may be that we are related. Great Grandfather was Christopher de Lacy and Grandfather was James, Great Grandmother was Matilda Fair. Recognise anyone? My daughter has that chin as does my nephew, she thanks me every time. Keep up the very good work, Joe
Reply from Roy
Thank you, Joe. My personal family tree has suffered some neglect with my involvement in Medieval times having taken president. I have just looked back at the de Lacy tree page on the website and my father's picture and his chin, I see what you mean! When I get a chance I will look back at my early notes; the name James rings a bell.
Linda Rabineau, Pennsylvania, USA. Jan 31st 2017
I am researching the de Lacy line that resided in Barbados, West Indies during the 1640's through the early 1700's.
The Widow Mary de Lacy was brought to America in the early 1700's by Stephen Griffin of Simsbury CT. De Lacy was her first husband's surname and was said to be quite wealthy and of Spanish/Portuguese descent.
Hoping to finally find someone that may help me bring this line of Lacy's into the European line and find the given name of her first husband most of all. Oral tradition says that Stephen brought the Widow de Lacy to America after she had nursed him back to health while becoming ill in Barbados. He married the Widow and brought her and her two daughters, Martha and Mary with her. This information comes to me from the notes of Albert C Bates, a local historian of Simsbury CT who interviewed Lester Griffin (the great grandson of Stephen Griffin). I have a tree, open to the public, BACON and GRIFFIN family tree, on Ancestry, user ID is Rabi51, and welcome anyone wanting to look at it
Reply From Roy
First the positive part. There are close links to the de Lacy family in Spain. Not just Spanish National heroes like Field Marshall Luis de Lacy there is a chapter in De Lacy Chronicles which covers his adventures and eventual fate. He and many of his contemporizes were descendants of Irish stock who left Ireland to join the Irish Brigade in Europe. From the English branch of the family, there were de Lacy's who fled and settled in Spain to escape the wrath of King John in the twelfth century. All of which gives credence to the husband of Widow de Lacy being Spanish. Given the involvement of Spain in and about South America at times strengthens the reason why they may have been there. The negative part is Linda, sorry I can offer no information about the Griffin Family but good luck in your search.
From Ron Lacy (USA) Jan 14th, 2017
If the Normans are of the small Tribe of Benjamin in Israel . The tribe of Benjamin were with the tribe of Judah together in Yahrusalem, who fought the 10 tribes of Israel in Samaria. Benjamin were only of 26,000 men, while the other 10 had 410,000 fighting there own brothers, whom the smaller defeated the larger twice! There had to be marriages between Judah and Benjamin. So the DeLacys (Lacys) will also be Jewish, plus what ever region we all setteled in , world wide. My family settled in Ireland, USA, England, Scotland , Czechlosavakia (spelling)? ., my DNA says Jewish., also Spain, Italy, Russia. Somewhere I read that the name Lacy meant Delta, and Deadly. my first name Ronald means mighty ruler, hence "Deadly Mighty Ruler". I didn't make this up! Ronald Lacy Toledo, Ohio. I have bought 4 of your DLC books.
Reply by Roy
Thank you, Ron, for your interesting comment. From my years researching the de Lacy family I have learned not to be surprised at any possible theory's regarding first, the medieval de Lacy family's origins their place in Norman history and finally the Norman place in Viking History. You are now offering a theory travelling back over a further two thousand years into the origins of the de Lacy family connecting its past with the twelfth biblical tribe of Israel. Out of my range of thinking Ron but it would be interesting if anyone else can add to Ron's theory.
I am currently enjoying reading your book "de Lacy Chronicles" which my wife purchased me for Christmas. A fine gift!
You may be interested to know that my father Garland H. Lacey published two books on family history are available.
Ancestors and Descendants of Hiram G. Lacey and Sophia Sell. 1995 Library of Congress Catalog Number 94-79688.
As a descendant I do appreciate reading and learn more of my family history.
Reply from Roy.
Thanks for giving information of your Fathers book.This may help the research of other family members in the States.
Larry King USA November 2017
My connection to the Lacey family is my great grandmother Katherine Lacey who is descended from Richard Lacey, a immigrant from the Isle of Wight.He born in 1735 and died in 1811 in Huntingdon New Jersey U.S.A. Do you have any information on him?Family lore says that his ancestor was a surety of the Magna Charta.Thank You! I like your website.
Reply from Roy.
Hi Larry welcome. The de Lacy you are referring to was Baron John de Lacy his son Edmond followed then Henry de Lacy. Both John and Henry became Earl of Lincoln. When you read the history of Henry there is a reference that might help your search.
Tommy De Lacey September 2017
Firstly, Great work on the site. Reading through the family tree page, I came across a comment from: Joseph de Lacey Ireland, Jan 31st 2017 re his great grandmother Matilda Fair.
I have just started putting together our family tree and discovered some old photos, one is a picture of Matilda Fair circa 1910, with her son Christopher who is my grandfather. Joseph might like to have a copy so please find one attached.
Reply from Roy.
This is getting exciting! First check out 'Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017' shown below. Then check out the three photos my father and General Sir George de Lacy Evens shown above Then Matilda Fair shown here. The de Lacy Chin?
Ian Lacy-Smith, UK July 2017.
Has anyone come across the book "FOLLOWING THE LACY TRAIL" (author unknown but may be American). It contains information on an early Californian entrepreneur William Lacy (1837-1897) and his large family. William emigrated from London to Illinois in 1860 and later moved to California where he became involved in many different ventures.
William was a son of Richard Lacy (1802-1852) of Macroom, Ireland and London who is one of my greatgreatgrandfathers.
Reply from Roy
I was able to verify your facts Ian but was unable to trace the book, shame it sounds interesting. William eventually died in Mexico. My search suggests it was Richard who had the large family.
George Walker, Santa Maria CA. July 2017
Greetings from America! My name is George Walker, I live in Santa Maria CA. My Aunt and Grandmother had recently move close to my home for health reasons, and in their move they had handed over to me a bundle of family trees and history booklets of our family. My grandmother's name is Mary-Lacy, and my Aunt name is Lacy, both had been given my Great Grandmother's maiden name Ethel Lacy. In a booklet, written by my Grandmother's cousin, William Decker, he writes mostly about the Lacy Family lineage in America. But in the first chapter w writes about our family coming from the de Lacy lineage. Starting in Normandy, fighting with William in the battle of Hastings, moving into Ireland with the Norman conquest, and one James de Lacy migrating to Virginia in 1691 after the second siege of Limerick. I was wondering is you had any connection to the families that left to America at that time.
Reply from Roy.
The book 'de Lacy Chronicles' contains details of a James de Lacy of Virginia, but his story is set in 1823-1906. He may be a descendant of your James.
Justin de Lacy, Moorooduc, Victoria, Australia. July 2017
I've just become aware of your site / book / research. I'd like to discover more about my family, in particular how the de Lacy name made it to Australia! One day I'd like to visit the ancestral homeland of my family, and meet family I never knew... Your research will help a lot!
Reply from Roy.
There are clues in all the de Lacy Family Generations. If you can trace if your ancestors, emigrated to Australia, from England or Irelandthis will help you reduce your search area. Good luck.
Bill Hobday UK May12th 2017
During my research, I have come upon different theories regarding the Cromwellbottom line.
One, that they are descended from the original "legitimate" John Lacy through his son Robert de Lacy.
Two, that they are descended from the "illegitimate" John de Lacy.
However, the illegitimate John received a grant of lands in Grantchester. Descendants, such as Edmund and John are listed in various pedigrees for the Lacy's of Grantchester. If this is accurate, then who was the progenitor of the Cromwellbottom line?
The family histories I have read in ancestry.com are all over the place in regard to persons, dates, etc., so a hot spot it remains!
Thanks again for all the researching you have done, you have brought this family back to life.
Reply from Roy
Certainly, you are researching a "Hot Spot" for de Lacy descendants including Henry de Lacy Earl of Lincoln, and your target John de Lacy. However, the coat of Arms does not give conclusive proof. The registration of coats of arms did not start till much later. So someone with a tenuous link may take a fancy to their personal use.
And, how should I react being descended from an illegitimate branch? There is no need to react to historical illegitimacy. This was a big stick created by The Church and Throne to help retain power. Illegitimacy is out of date in a modern secular society.
Janice Williams, UK. April 2017
Congratulations on a well researched and presented history of the de Lacy family. I found it really easy to follow. The Datelines of the various monarchs were very helpful as were the details of each de Lacy mentioned.
After reading your book I want to find out more about John Lacy, Clothworker of London, and a favourite of Queen Elizabeth 1. You mention in your book that he was possibly the John Lacy she sent to Ireland.
Reply from Roy
Thank you for your kind comments on 'de Lacy Chronicles' . Ha's anyone else have any knowledge of John de Lacy? This is a second request for this name in de Lacy history.
Brian Patrick De Lacy, South Africa + Dublin 31st March 17
I am from South Africa. My father's name was James George De Lacy. His grandfather (my great grandfather) was from Ireland and emigrated to South Africa.
My father passed away in the 1980's and I never had the opportunity to get any heritage details from him. My brother James Terrence De Lacy is now living in Dublin and we are trying to get some direction on our heritage.
My fathers father, my grandfather, passed away when my father was 4 years old.
My mother was born in Ireland and emigrated with her family to South Africa when she was in her teens.
In anyone can provide me any info or direction on how to access my De Lacy heritage it will be appreciated.
Reply from Roy,
There are other entries which relate back to Dublin within these comments. ood luck with your search. Please refer back any progress that can be shared.
Lisa Reeves, UK 2nd March 2017
Hi...I have in my family tree a maud de lacy marrying a Richard de fitton.......does anyone know of this is correct and any info on the link with these two families? Thank you.
Reply from Roy,
I have checked out the de Mitton family as the nearest link. I think possibly you have been given wrong dates. There are a number of Maud de Lacy's in the book but none married to a Richard de Fitton. Can anybody help with more information for Lisa?
Question from Bill Hobday Feb 19th
Hi Bill, Your question: He refers to the "Yorkshire" line of Lacy's-could you relate any information you have regarding that line, as it might be a clue to the Northumbrian Lacy's.
The Yorkshire de Lacy's were the ( poorly recorded) descendants of retainers and Knights who came to Pontefract Castle Yorkshire with Ilbert de Lacy from Lassy in Normandy the 1st Baron of the Honour of Pontefract. Unfortunately, the direct descendants of Ilbert came to an end in 1311. Sorry, I can add no more at this stage I will post the question on the de Lacy Family tree page we may both find a response.
Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017 I have read your blog, and it is great. My family are from Dublin, and it may be that we are related. Great Grandfather was Christopher de Lacy and Grandfather was James, Great Grandmother was Matilda Fair. Recognise anyone? My daughter has that chin as does my nephew, she thanks me every time. Keep up the very good work, Joe
Reply from Roy
Thank you, Joe. My personal family tree has suffered some neglect with my involvement in Medieval times having taken president. I have just looked back at the de Lacy tree page on the website and my father's picture and his chin, I see what you mean! When I get a chance I will look back at my early notes; the name James rings a bell.
Linda Rabineau, Pennsylvania, USA. Jan 31st 2017
I am researching the de Lacy line that resided in Barbados, West Indies during the 1640's through the early 1700's.
The Widow Mary de Lacy was brought to America in the early 1700's by Stephen Griffin of Simsbury CT. De Lacy was her first husband's surname and was said to be quite wealthy and of Spanish/Portuguese descent.
Hoping to finally find someone that may help me bring this line of Lacy's into the European line and find the given name of her first husband most of all. Oral tradition says that Stephen brought the Widow de Lacy to America after she had nursed him back to health while becoming ill in Barbados. He married the Widow and brought her and her two daughters, Martha and Mary with her. This information comes to me from the notes of Albert C Bates, a local historian of Simsbury CT who interviewed Lester Griffin (the great grandson of Stephen Griffin). I have a tree, open to the public, BACON and GRIFFIN family tree, on Ancestry, user ID is Rabi51, and welcome anyone wanting to look at it
Reply From Roy
First the positive part. There are close links to the de Lacy family in Spain. Not just Spanish National heroes like Field Marshall Luis de Lacy there is a chapter in De Lacy Chronicles which covers his adventures and eventual fate. He and many of his contemporizes were descendants of Irish stock who left Ireland to join the Irish Brigade in Europe. From the English branch of the family, there were de Lacy's who fled and settled in Spain to escape the wrath of King John in the twelfth century. All of which gives credence to the husband of Widow de Lacy being Spanish. Given the involvement of Spain in and about South America at times strengthens the reason why they may have been there. The negative part is Linda, sorry I can offer no information about the Griffin Family but good luck in your search.
From Ron Lacy (USA) Jan 14th, 2017
If the Normans are of the small Tribe of Benjamin in Israel . The tribe of Benjamin were with the tribe of Judah together in Yahrusalem, who fought the 10 tribes of Israel in Samaria. Benjamin were only of 26,000 men, while the other 10 had 410,000 fighting there own brothers, whom the smaller defeated the larger twice! There had to be marriages between Judah and Benjamin. So the DeLacys (Lacys) will also be Jewish, plus what ever region we all setteled in , world wide. My family settled in Ireland, USA, England, Scotland , Czechlosavakia (spelling)? ., my DNA says Jewish., also Spain, Italy, Russia. Somewhere I read that the name Lacy meant Delta, and Deadly. my first name Ronald means mighty ruler, hence "Deadly Mighty Ruler". I didn't make this up! Ronald Lacy Toledo, Ohio. I have bought 4 of your DLC books.
Reply by Roy
Thank you, Ron, for your interesting comment. From my years researching the de Lacy family I have learned not to be surprised at any possible theory's regarding first, the medieval de Lacy family's origins their place in Norman history and finally the Norman place in Viking History. You are now offering a theory travelling back over a further two thousand years into the origins of the de Lacy family connecting its past with the twelfth biblical tribe of Israel. Out of my range of thinking Ron but it would be interesting if anyone else can add to Ron's theory.
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