Family Tree Archives 2017 2018
Sherry Lacy_Gonzales, Florida, USA. December 28th 2018 Recently I found out from a cousin that she thinks we originated from France. I have always thought we originated from Ireland. She said originally we were De Lacy's. So that started my internet search and lead me to here. I'm hoping this is our family heritage line and we can learn more about where "us". I just ordered your book. I can't wait to share it with my dad, Robert Lacy. His father was Preston Lacy. Reply from Roy Both you and your cousin may well be right. Within the 'Flight of the Wild Geese' page you will discover that the Irish Brigade including members of the de Lacy family formed and important part of the French Army.
Carol Gee via de Lacy Chronicles Facebook page: UK Aug 12th 2018 My ancestor, Samuel Habergham (possibly then Habercham, Habringham or any other ways of spelling it in medieval times) had a connection to Roger de Lacy in that, Roger gave an oxgang of land in Habergham, Lancashire to Matthew de Habergham, and his heirs, for their homage, a rent of 3s. to be given yearly at St. Giles' Day (which I have learnt about through the de Lacy Chronicles). Matthew Habergham, with the assent of Peter his eldest son, somewhat later gave a moiety of the land he held of John de Lacy, the constable of Chester, to another son Henry, at a rent of 6d. Does this mean that Roger de Lacy could have been his liege lord and he was being rewarded for his services? The name Habergham, among other meanings, seems to be Norman for maker of chain mail. Samuel also had either a coat of arms or family crest 'Argent, three crosses humette sable'. Does anyone know to whom these were awarded and why? My ancestor is also mentioned in 1269 at the Lancashire Inquisitions. Is anybody able to shed any light on the Lancashire Inquisitions? I have read the history of Sir Roger de Lacy and he was a formidable man among men and so to were his kin. Reply from Roy: on Facebook
Karen Gibbs UK July 15th 2018 Hi Janice My great great Grandfather was Charles Watkyns Delacy Evans and after many many years of being a genealogist (I started when I was 12 years old) I have only just discovered that Victor Harold Conrad existed. He was not included in any census connected to the family. I was very close to my Grandmother who was his Granddaughter (daughter of Victor's sister). I di d emigrate to Australia also (came back) but my family remain in Melbourne. Would love to know why no one has ever spoken about him... Reply from Roy: There are more links opening up regarding the details of the de Lacy-Evens Family. I cover the joining together in approx 1780 of both name s. in the book de Lacy Chronicles. Incidentally the Evens family were also of de Lacy roots.
Ian Lacy Smith, UK 2th June 2018 I'm buying the "de Lacy Chronicles" as your clear timeline in the Origins confirm my 6% Viking DNA obtained from ancestry.co.uk . All I need now is for someone to fill in the six centuries between Hugh de Lacy and my great,great,grandfather Richard Lacy born in Macroom ,Cork in 1801 ! Very well done on the excellent additions and reorganisation of your website. Reply from Roy: Like many including myself Ian, you find yourself in the 'Grey Years' of Lacy history. There is chapter in the book and even more information on the Grey years page here on the site. The more Lacy names, places and dates we can find the more we learn.
Jeanne Lacy West, GA USA 16th June 2018 I noticed a question from Chris Lacy asking for names of Lacy's from the South who fought in the Civil War. My great grandfather was Jabe Martin Lacy from Crawfordville, Georgia. He served in the 10th Cavalry, Company E, CSA. His father was Pleasant Martin Lacy, and his great grandfather was Archibald Lacy from Va. who fought in the Virginia Line in the Revolution, and then migrated to Georgia. Reply from Roy: Thanks for adding your Cavalry relatives Jeanne, Immediately below is the question from Chris. Can anybody add from either side of the war any other Lacy Civil war veterans.
Chris Lacey, USA 19th May 2018 I am reading your book "de Lacey Chronicles". I saw on back cover you mentioned we had relatives on both sides of Civil War of 1861. I am interested in those relatives names, etc on the Confederate side in the South. Would you have any information or leads regarding this? Reply from Roy: As you know my book 'de Lacy Chronicles' covers the greater family right around the world. The only members of the American Confederate Army that I researched were James Horace Lacy and briefly his brother Rev Beverly Tucker Lacy. There will certainly be others and I would suggest you start your research within the State of Virginia. I am putting this on the de Lacy family tree in the hope that another subscriber may be able to help.
Janice Coleman Evens, Australia 14th May 2018 My father's name was Harold Victor de Lacy Evans and his father's name was Charles Watkin de Lacy Evans. Reply from Roy You will find information about the de Lacy Evans branch of the de Lacy family above on this page and within the book 'de Lacy Chronicles'.
Moira Penglase, Australia 10th April 2018. Wondering if there is a connection William de lacy White born Killarney .Daughter married William Henry Murphy name was Bessie White.She lived in Wangaratta Victoria she died July 1919 buried Lake Cargelligo N.S. W. Bessie had two daughters Elizabeth Winefred and Joan Catherine. Reply from Roy Do you know of a William deLacy White?.
Brian P.T. Blake, USA 28th Feb 2018 My American Blake Family is descended from Lady Alice de Lacy (1281-1343), the only surviving child of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln and 7th Lord of Bowland, and Margaret Longspee Plantagenet through an illicit liaison with Richard la Parker, a forester of Bowland Forest, Yorkshire (now in Lancashire). Lady Alice was separated from her husband and Richard, born 1288, was seven years younger, about 21 years old when Alice, 28, conceived their son c.1309. Their union is the only explanation for the designation of Richard Parker of 1630 as a Gateway Ancestor of Baron John de Lacy by the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta. I have created a chart of the de Lacy-Parker-Blake connection which I shall be happy to send to anyone interested.
Reply from Roy. Lady Alice lies at the very end of the Ilbert de Lacy Line. Brian offers a chart of his family line back to Alice as shown in his comment.
Carolyn USA 25th Feb 2018
I am trying to trace my Lacey family. I can get back to Joseph I Lacey born in 1803 and died in Charles county MD in 1857. He married Cecelia Rock in 1826. My grand mother always told me the family originated in France but came from Ireland to America. I have also heard they possibly were from VA before settling in MD. I have tried to tie us in with several lines but have hit a wall with this Joseph Lacey and can't go back past him. I was hoping someone might have information that could help. Thank you so much! Reply from Roy There was many de Lacy Irish citizens who joined the Irish Brigade in France following the 'Flight of the wild geese', in 1691 eventually some will have returned to Ireland.
Paul de Lacy, Ireland, Jan 28th 2018 Regarding the Tommy De Lacey post in September 2017 Matilda de Lacy (née Fair) is my great-great-grandmother. As mentioned her husband was Christopher. I would love to have information on Christopher's parents. Their son Thomas had a son, Christopher, born in 1919/1920 who was my grandfather. Reply from Roy. Paul I will advise Tommy of your interest also scroll down to Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017
Chris Lacey Illinois, USA. Dec 27th I am currently enjoying reading your book "de Lacy Chronicles" which my wife purchased me for Christmas. A fine gift! You may be interested to know that my father Garland H. Lacey published two books on family history are available. Ancestors and Descendants of Hiram G. Lacey and Sophia Sell. 1995 Library of Congress Catalog Number 94-79688. As a descendant I do appreciate reading and learn more of my family history. Reply from Roy. Thanks for giving information about your Fathers book. This may help the research of other family members in the States.
Larry King USA November 2017 My connection to the Lacey family is my great grandmother Katherine Lacey who is descended from Richard Lacey, a immigrant from the Isle of Wight.He born in 1735 and died
in 1811 in Huntingdon New Jersey U.S.A. Do you have any information on him?Family lore says that his ancestor was a surety of the Magna Charta.Thank You! I like your website. Reply from Roy. Hi Larry welcome. The de Lacy you are referring to was Baron John de Lacy his son Edmond followed then Henry de Lacy. Both John and Henry became Earl of Lincoln. When you read the history of Henry there is a reference that might help your search.
Tommy De Lacey September 2017 Firstly, Great work on the site. Reading through the family tree page, I came across a comment from: Joseph de Lacey Ireland, Jan 31st 2017 re his great grandmother Matilda Fair. I have just started putting together our family tree and discovered some old photos, one is a picture of Matilda Fair circa 1910, with her son Christopher who is my grandfather. Joseph might like to have a copy so please find one attached. Reply from Roy. This is getting exciting! First check out 'Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017' shown below . Then check out the three photos my father and General Sir George de Lacy Evens shown above Then Matilda Fair shown here. The de Lacy Chin?
Ian Lacy-Smith, UK July 2017. Has anyone come across the book "FOLLOWING THE LACY TRAIL" (author unknown but may be American). It contains information on an early Californian entrepreneur William Lacy (1837-1897) and his large family. William emigrated from London to Illinois in 1860 and later moved to California where he became involved in many different ventures. William was a son of Richard Lacy (1802-1852) of Macroom, Ireland and London who is one of my greatgreatgrandfathers. Reply from Roy I was able to verify your facts Ian but was unable to trace the book, shame it sounds interesting. William eventually died in Mexico. My search suggests it was Richard who had the large family.
George Walker, Santa Maria CA. July 2017 Greetings from America! My name is George Walker, I live in Santa Maria CA. My Aunt and Grandmother had recently move close to my home for health reasons, and in their move they had handed over to me a bundle of family trees and history booklets of our family. My grandmother's name is Mary-Lacy, and my Aunt name is Lacy, both had been given my Great Grandmother's maiden name Ethel Lacy. In a booklet, written by my Grandmother's cousin, William Decker, he writes mostly about the Lacy Family lineage in America. But in the first chapter we write about our family coming from the de Lacy lineage. Starting in Normandy, fighting with William in the battle of Hastings, moving into Ireland with the Norman conquest, and one James de Lacy migrating to Virginia in 1691 after the second siege of Limerick. I was wondering is you had any connection to the families that left to America at that time. Reply from Roy. The book 'de Lacy Chronicles' contains details of a James de Lacy of Virginia, but his story is set in 1823-1906. He may be a descendant of your James.
Justin de Lacy, Moorooduc, Victoria, Australia. July 2017
I've just become aware of your site / book / research. I'd like to discover more about my family, in particular how the de Lacy name made it to Australia! One day I'd like to visit the ancestral homeland of my family, and meet family I never knew... Your research will help a lot! Reply from Roy. There are clues in all the de Lacy Family Generations. If you can trace if your ancestors, emigrated to Australia, from England or Irelandthis will help you reduce your search area. Good luck.
Bill Hobday UK May12th 2017 During my research, I have come upon different theories regarding the Cromwellbottom line. One, that they are descended from the original "legitimate" John Lacy through his son Robert de Lacy. Two, that they are descended from the "illegitimate" John de Lacy. However, the illegitimate John received a grant of lands in Grantchester. Descendants, such as Edmund and John are listed in various pedigrees for the Lacy's of Grantchester. If this is accurate, then who was the progenitor of the Cromwellbottom line? The family histories I have read in ancestry.com are all over the place in regard to persons, dates, etc., so a hot spot it remains! Thanks again for all the researching you have done, you have brought this family back to life. Reply from Roy Certainly, you are researching a "Hot Spot" for de Lacy descendants including Henry de Lacy Earl of Lincoln, and your target John de Lacy. However, the coat of Arms does not give conclusive proof. The registration of coats of arms did not start till much later. So someone with a tenuous link may take a fancy to their personal use. And, how should I react being descended from an illegitimate branch? There is no need to react to historical illegitimacy. This was a big stick created by The Church and Throne to help retain power. Illegitimacy is out of date in a modern secular society.
Janice Williams, UK. April 2017 Congratulations on a well researched and presented history of the de Lacy family. I found it really easy to follow. The Datelines of the various monarchs were very helpful as were the details of each de Lacy mentioned. After reading your book I want to find out more about John Lacy, Clothworker of London, and a favourite of Queen Elizabeth 1. You mention in your book that he was possibly the John Lacy she sent to Ireland. Reply from Roy Thank you for your kind comments on 'de Lacy Chronicles' . Ha's anyone else have any knowledge of John de Lacy? This is a second request for this name in de Lacy history.
Brian Patrick De Lacy, South Africa + Dublin 31st March 17 I am from South Africa. My father's name was James George De Lacy. His grandfather (my great grandfather) was from Ireland and emigrated to South Africa. My father passed away in the 1980's and I never had the opportunity to get any heritage details from him. My brother James Terrence De Lacy is now living in Dublin and we are trying to get some direction on our heritage. My fathers father, my grandfather, passed away when my father was 4 years old.
My mother was born in Ireland and emigrated with her family to South Africa when she was in her teens. In anyone can provide me any info or direction on how to access my De Lacy heritage it will be appreciated. Reply from Roy, There are other entries which relate back to Dublin within these comments. good luck with your search. Please refer back any progress that can be shared.
Lisa Reeves, UK 2nd March 2017 Hi...I have in my family tree a maud de lacy marrying a Richard de fitton.......does anyone know of this is correct and any info on the link with these two families? Thank you. Reply from Roy,
I have checked out the de Mitton family as the nearest link. I think possibly you have been given wrong dates. There are a number of Maud de Lacy's in the book but none married to a Richard de Fitton. Can anybody help with more information for Lisa?
Question from Bill Hobday Feb 19th Hi Bill, Your question: He refers to the "Yorkshire" line of Lacy's-could you relate any information you have regarding that line, as it might be a clue to the Northumbrian Lacy's. The Yorkshire de Lacy's were the ( poorly recorded) descendants of retainers and Knights who came to Pontefract Castle Yorkshire with Ilbert de Lacy from Lassy in Normandy the 1st Baron of the Honour of Pontefract. Unfortunately, the direct descendants of Ilbert came to an end in 1311. Sorry, I can add no more at this stage I will post the question on the de Lacy Family tree page we may both find a response.
Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017 I have read your blog, and it is great. My family are from Dublin, and it may be that we are related. Great Grandfather was Christopher de Lacy and Grandfather was James, Great Grandmother was Matilda Fair. Recognise anyone? My daughter has that chin as does my nephew, she thanks me every time. Keep up the very good work, Joe Reply from Roy Thank you, Joe. My personal family tree has suffered some neglect with my involvement in Medieval times having taken president. I have just looked back at the de Lacy tree page on the website and my father's picture and his chin, I see what you mean! When I get a chance I will look back at my early notes; the name James rings a bell.
Linda Rabineau, Pennsylvania, USA. Jan 31st 2017 I am researching the de Lacy line that resided in Barbados, West Indies during the 1640's through the early 1700's. The Widow Mary de Lacy was brought to America in the early 1700's by Stephen Griffin of Simsbury CT. De Lacy was her first husband's surname and was said to be quite wealthy and of Spanish/Portuguese descent. Hoping to finally find someone that may help me bring this line of Lacy's into the European line and find the given name of her first husband most of all. Oral tradition says that Stephen brought the Widow de Lacy to America after she had nursed him back to health while becoming ill in Barbados. He married the Widow and brought her and her two daughters,
Martha and Mary with her. This information comes to me from the notes of Albert C Bates, a local historian of Simsbury CT who interviewed Lester Griffin (the great grandson of Stephen Griffin). I have a tree, open to the public, BACON and GRIFFIN family tree, on Ancestry, user ID is Rabi51, and welcome anyone wanting to look at it Reply From Roy First the positive part. There are close links to the de Lacy family in Spain. Not just Spanish National heroes like Field Marshall Luis de Lacy there is a chapter in De Lacy Chronicles which covers his adventures and eventual fate. He and many of his contemporizes were descendants of Irish stock who left Ireland to join the Irish Brigade in Europe. From the English branch of the family, there were de Lacy's who fled and settled in Spain to escape the wrath of King John in the twelfth century. All of which gives credence to the husband of Widow de Lacy being Spanish. Given the involvement of Spain in and about South America at times strengthens the reason why they may have been there. The negative part is Linda, sorry I can offer no information about the Griffin Family but good luck in your search.
From Ron Lacy (USA) Jan 14th, 2017 If the Normans are of the small Tribe of Benjamin in Israel . The tribe of Benjamin were with the tribe of Judah together in Yahrusalem, who fought the 10 tribes of Israel in Samaria. Benjamin were only of 26,000 men, while the other 10 had 410,000 fighting there own brothers, whom the smaller defeated the larger twice! There had to be marriages between Judah and Benjamin. So the DeLacys (Lacys) will also be Jewish, plus what ever region we all setteled in , world wide. My family settled in Ireland, USA, England, Scotland , Czechlosavakia (spelling)? ., my DNA says Jewish., also Spain, Italy, Russia. Somewhere I read that the name Lacy meant Delta, and Deadly. my first name Ronald means mighty ruler, hence "Deadly Mighty Ruler". I didn't make this up! Ronald Lacy Toledo, Ohio. I have bought 4 of your DLC books. Reply by Roy Thank you, Ron, for your interesting comment. From my years researching the de Lacy family I have learned not to be surprised at any possible theory's regarding first, the medieval de Lacy family's origins their place in Norman history and finally the Norman place in Viking History. You are now offering a theory travelling back over a further two thousand years into the origins of the de Lacy family connecting its past with the twelfth biblical tribe of Israel. Out of my range of thinking Ron but it would be interesting if anyone else can add to Ron's theory.
Archive Comments Pre-Dec 31st 2016
Christopher Alan Lacey Bevan Dec 31st, 2016
Hello Roy, re Lacy origins in Norway I finally received my DNA testing kit and am awaiting results in about a month. I will let you know if there are in fact any links to Norway.
Reply by Roy
Please do, I am sure many members of the greater Lacy family will be pleased to learn how you get on.
Chris Lacey Bevan UK. 18th December 2016
I am currently enjoying the 'de Lacy Chronicles' and will be buying more copies for my family. It is a fascinating book and I was intrigued by the family going back to Norway. I have visited the Scandinavian countries several times and hope to return as I loved them. I wonder which part of Norway the family ancestors came from?
The book really brings the family to life.
I was in Vienna recently doing research on a book I am writing on the travels of Elisabeth, Empress of Austria. I found the Schloss where Franz Moritz is buried but unfortunately did not have a chance to see his grave. I have been to St Petersburg but whilst there I did not know about the connection with his father.
Meanwhile congratulations on an excellent book and I look forward to a visit to Pontefract.
Reply from Roy:
Thanks for your kind words Chris. My nearest research was Lassy, Jarl of Clan Lassy. originated in Southern Norway. The name Lassy was quite common in early medieval Scandinavia. There is also a comment from Chris on the welcome page.
Jennifer E. Lacy. Sept 16 2016
You are speaking of my father, Roy Arthur Lacy, who died over 20 years ago in Atlanta, Georgia. I am his daughter, Jennifer E. Lacy. If you are his brother, you must be Ron Lacy, whom I haven't seen nor heard from in over 25 years.
Jennifer Lacy a month ago(Sept 16)
Colleen Nov 2016
I am enjoying reading your book. I , too, have done a lot of research on the de Lacy family and love the way you lay it all out
so clearly and concisely. My own grandfather was Edward Dashwood de Lacy born in 1866 in Richmond, England -
his father was Edward de Lacy of Dublin Ireland. I am also interested in the Dashwood link to my family - probably on the
distaff side.. do you have any info in this regard (re Dashwood)? a month ago from Colleen http://theboardmanfamily.tribalpages.com
Reply from Roy
Thank you for your kind comments about the book. My own research into the de Lacy family moved too quickly to allow time for other than the main characters within the book, including the neglect of my personal Lacy family. So I have no information regarding Dashwood de Lacy. Good luck with your search. Let me know how you get on....Roy
Jennifer. Nov 2016
Really enjoying reading through your book. I am enjoying all of the information, but I do wish you would have added some pictures of the castles, maps of our lands, our family crest, the Lacy Knot (heraldic knot), etc. I also wonder if you included the information about Elizabeth de Burgh, one of the de Lacy grandaughters (Walder de Lacy line, Egidia de Lacy, Lady of Connacht). She married King Robert the Bruce of Scotland and was Queen. I also wanted to inform you of a very small typographical error on p. 142 (year 2013 was listed instead 1813). While I do wish there were some pictures, I am very grateful to have this information and am thankful that I found your book and website. Thank you. Nov 2016
Reply from Roy
Hi, Jennifer, So pleased you found 'de Lacy Chronicles an enjoyable read Your not alone in feeling the lack of pictures within the book I too was frustrated that I was unable to add them. My aim was to produce an easy read book with an impulse purchase price. With pictures in black & white which would not have done justice to the book, would have doubled the price to $19.99 and in colour to over $30. I solved this problem by setting up the free companion website to the book which will not only fill with colour pictures but allow everyone also to contribute their own, photos of de Lacy castles, etc. Please, not copies without copy writing consent.
Mea Culpa: Of course 1813 not 2013 on page 142. Sorry everybody. With a potted history of 29 de Lacy family’s in less than 161 pages i agree the de Lacy ladies received scant attention.Certainly, there is a fascinating story of the life of Egida de Lacy. Where there were size constraints on the book, I can happily continue growing the size of the website. If you or any other site visitor wish to contribute articles about the de Lacy ladies I will gladly create a new website page 'de Lacy Ladies'. Own work please, Copy without permission can not be accepted.Nov 2016 Roy A Lacy
Lynn (Australia) November 2016
I am descendent from a John De Lacey from Ireland born about 1800 who also lived in Nova Scotia. He married a lass from Wexford Ireland - Catherine Cowman. Have you come across any DeLacey descendants, spelt as such, in your research? We seem to have hit a blank wall. Is it possible it is a corrupted variant of the name DeLacy and not related at all? I've never been to Ireland and that may be the only way to clarify it. Looking forward to reading your book now it's available.
Regards Lynn (Australia) a month ago
Reply from Roy
Hi Lynn, During my research for 'de Lacy Chronicles I came across numerous ways of spelling de Lacy. Apart from one or two attempts dictionaries and Catalogues of names did not surface much before the 17th century. As for medieval days, when an individual abbot or monk would make their interpretation on how a name was spelt. Often they were wrong!So in your search don't let spelling stop your research. John de Lacy (or John Lacy) was a popular Lacy name. However, as a suggest in my book Irish family history before the 18th century is a grey area. Often better traced by places as well as names. Good luck with your search and remember "blind alleys are new starting places". Let us all know how you get on.
Jennifer Lacy, USA
Amazing to see your name and the "de Lacy Chronicles" while researching our Lacy / de Lacy heritage for my sons. I saw that your name is Roy A. Lacy and that was quite a shock as my dad was Roy A. Lacy, the A as initial for Arthur. I also see a very recent message from my Uncle Ron Lacy (my father's brother) posted just 19 days ago. I guess we are all interested in our de Lacy ancestral heritage. My father, who is now deceased for over 25 years, was born in Ohio, United States. I haven't researched further than my grandfather, but will try to research further. Very happy to purchase your book and read up on the de Lacy history! a month ago
Roys Reply. Nov 2016
How marvellous to see two branches of the same first generation coming together on the de Lacy Chronicles website. Keep us informed if there are any further developments. Arthur was an excellent name for your father; mine is Albert a name I hated at one time and refused to use the A in Roy A Lacy. Now in my older years, I am quite proud of the history behind my middle name. Hence with pride, I sign my book Roy A Lacy
This is very strange for me because I had a brother named Roy A Lacy who died years ago in Atlanta Ga. He worked for Delta Air Lines, 25 years in Atlanta , USA. His middle name was Arthur. I have known about my name Lacy since I was 10. I am now age 80. Born in 1936. I have my DNA with results being that of Ireland, Czechoslovakia, Russia,Greece-Spain, Norway (Vikings), Benyamin, and Yahudah ,(Judah). French , Scot, English. Interesting - YES. More of Irish ( which is of the tribe of Judah) and Normandy French of Benjamin ( of the Vikings of Norway), which came from Jerusalem ( Judah and Benjamin). This is a little bit about my family and me.. Oct 2016
David Lacey Aug 16
Hi Roy we are going to England September 22 for 3 weeks to check out the Lacey castles and history. I have been trying to do a family history but can't seem to get past my grandfather who was born in London as Edward George Lacey in 1892 in Plaistow. His father and mother are James Murray Lacey and Lucy Sarah Lacey formerly Wyeth. Can't find anything more on them. My Grandfather told me when he was alive that his father James was a journalist and was a runner for Churchill during the boer war, other than that I don't know anything else. My grandfather emigrated to Canada with his two brothers in the early 1900's. Any suggestions you have on where I go from there would be appreciated. I don't know if your book would tie in with my relations but I have ordered it today and looking forward to reading it. Thanks David Lacey Aug 16
Roys reply
Hi David Thank you for purchasing the book. You may find that your family tree is still rooted in England rather than the usual path of Ireland. This is only an assumption based upon your name being spelt Lacey which has been more prevalent here since Tudor times. Even more so if your family were (are) Protestant.
The English Baronial family died out in the early 14th century but there are some clues to be found. Read about Henry de Lacy Aug 2016
Sherry Lacy_Gonzales, Florida, USA. December 28th 2018 Recently I found out from a cousin that she thinks we originated from France. I have always thought we originated from Ireland. She said originally we were De Lacy's. So that started my internet search and lead me to here. I'm hoping this is our family heritage line and we can learn more about where "us". I just ordered your book. I can't wait to share it with my dad, Robert Lacy. His father was Preston Lacy. Reply from Roy Both you and your cousin may well be right. Within the 'Flight of the Wild Geese' page you will discover that the Irish Brigade including members of the de Lacy family formed and important part of the French Army.
Carol Gee via de Lacy Chronicles Facebook page: UK Aug 12th 2018 My ancestor, Samuel Habergham (possibly then Habercham, Habringham or any other ways of spelling it in medieval times) had a connection to Roger de Lacy in that, Roger gave an oxgang of land in Habergham, Lancashire to Matthew de Habergham, and his heirs, for their homage, a rent of 3s. to be given yearly at St. Giles' Day (which I have learnt about through the de Lacy Chronicles). Matthew Habergham, with the assent of Peter his eldest son, somewhat later gave a moiety of the land he held of John de Lacy, the constable of Chester, to another son Henry, at a rent of 6d. Does this mean that Roger de Lacy could have been his liege lord and he was being rewarded for his services? The name Habergham, among other meanings, seems to be Norman for maker of chain mail. Samuel also had either a coat of arms or family crest 'Argent, three crosses humette sable'. Does anyone know to whom these were awarded and why? My ancestor is also mentioned in 1269 at the Lancashire Inquisitions. Is anybody able to shed any light on the Lancashire Inquisitions? I have read the history of Sir Roger de Lacy and he was a formidable man among men and so to were his kin. Reply from Roy: on Facebook
Karen Gibbs UK July 15th 2018 Hi Janice My great great Grandfather was Charles Watkyns Delacy Evans and after many many years of being a genealogist (I started when I was 12 years old) I have only just discovered that Victor Harold Conrad existed. He was not included in any census connected to the family. I was very close to my Grandmother who was his Granddaughter (daughter of Victor's sister). I di d emigrate to Australia also (came back) but my family remain in Melbourne. Would love to know why no one has ever spoken about him... Reply from Roy: There are more links opening up regarding the details of the de Lacy-Evens Family. I cover the joining together in approx 1780 of both name s. in the book de Lacy Chronicles. Incidentally the Evens family were also of de Lacy roots.
Ian Lacy Smith, UK 2th June 2018 I'm buying the "de Lacy Chronicles" as your clear timeline in the Origins confirm my 6% Viking DNA obtained from ancestry.co.uk . All I need now is for someone to fill in the six centuries between Hugh de Lacy and my great,great,grandfather Richard Lacy born in Macroom ,Cork in 1801 ! Very well done on the excellent additions and reorganisation of your website. Reply from Roy: Like many including myself Ian, you find yourself in the 'Grey Years' of Lacy history. There is chapter in the book and even more information on the Grey years page here on the site. The more Lacy names, places and dates we can find the more we learn.
Jeanne Lacy West, GA USA 16th June 2018 I noticed a question from Chris Lacy asking for names of Lacy's from the South who fought in the Civil War. My great grandfather was Jabe Martin Lacy from Crawfordville, Georgia. He served in the 10th Cavalry, Company E, CSA. His father was Pleasant Martin Lacy, and his great grandfather was Archibald Lacy from Va. who fought in the Virginia Line in the Revolution, and then migrated to Georgia. Reply from Roy: Thanks for adding your Cavalry relatives Jeanne, Immediately below is the question from Chris. Can anybody add from either side of the war any other Lacy Civil war veterans.
Chris Lacey, USA 19th May 2018 I am reading your book "de Lacey Chronicles". I saw on back cover you mentioned we had relatives on both sides of Civil War of 1861. I am interested in those relatives names, etc on the Confederate side in the South. Would you have any information or leads regarding this? Reply from Roy: As you know my book 'de Lacy Chronicles' covers the greater family right around the world. The only members of the American Confederate Army that I researched were James Horace Lacy and briefly his brother Rev Beverly Tucker Lacy. There will certainly be others and I would suggest you start your research within the State of Virginia. I am putting this on the de Lacy family tree in the hope that another subscriber may be able to help.
Janice Coleman Evens, Australia 14th May 2018 My father's name was Harold Victor de Lacy Evans and his father's name was Charles Watkin de Lacy Evans. Reply from Roy You will find information about the de Lacy Evans branch of the de Lacy family above on this page and within the book 'de Lacy Chronicles'.
Moira Penglase, Australia 10th April 2018. Wondering if there is a connection William de lacy White born Killarney .Daughter married William Henry Murphy name was Bessie White.She lived in Wangaratta Victoria she died July 1919 buried Lake Cargelligo N.S. W. Bessie had two daughters Elizabeth Winefred and Joan Catherine. Reply from Roy Do you know of a William deLacy White?.
Brian P.T. Blake, USA 28th Feb 2018 My American Blake Family is descended from Lady Alice de Lacy (1281-1343), the only surviving child of Henry de Lacy, Earl of Lincoln and 7th Lord of Bowland, and Margaret Longspee Plantagenet through an illicit liaison with Richard la Parker, a forester of Bowland Forest, Yorkshire (now in Lancashire). Lady Alice was separated from her husband and Richard, born 1288, was seven years younger, about 21 years old when Alice, 28, conceived their son c.1309. Their union is the only explanation for the designation of Richard Parker of 1630 as a Gateway Ancestor of Baron John de Lacy by the Baronial Order of the Magna Charta. I have created a chart of the de Lacy-Parker-Blake connection which I shall be happy to send to anyone interested.
Reply from Roy. Lady Alice lies at the very end of the Ilbert de Lacy Line. Brian offers a chart of his family line back to Alice as shown in his comment.
Carolyn USA 25th Feb 2018
I am trying to trace my Lacey family. I can get back to Joseph I Lacey born in 1803 and died in Charles county MD in 1857. He married Cecelia Rock in 1826. My grand mother always told me the family originated in France but came from Ireland to America. I have also heard they possibly were from VA before settling in MD. I have tried to tie us in with several lines but have hit a wall with this Joseph Lacey and can't go back past him. I was hoping someone might have information that could help. Thank you so much! Reply from Roy There was many de Lacy Irish citizens who joined the Irish Brigade in France following the 'Flight of the wild geese', in 1691 eventually some will have returned to Ireland.
Paul de Lacy, Ireland, Jan 28th 2018 Regarding the Tommy De Lacey post in September 2017 Matilda de Lacy (née Fair) is my great-great-grandmother. As mentioned her husband was Christopher. I would love to have information on Christopher's parents. Their son Thomas had a son, Christopher, born in 1919/1920 who was my grandfather. Reply from Roy. Paul I will advise Tommy of your interest also scroll down to Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017
Chris Lacey Illinois, USA. Dec 27th I am currently enjoying reading your book "de Lacy Chronicles" which my wife purchased me for Christmas. A fine gift! You may be interested to know that my father Garland H. Lacey published two books on family history are available. Ancestors and Descendants of Hiram G. Lacey and Sophia Sell. 1995 Library of Congress Catalog Number 94-79688. As a descendant I do appreciate reading and learn more of my family history. Reply from Roy. Thanks for giving information about your Fathers book. This may help the research of other family members in the States.
Larry King USA November 2017 My connection to the Lacey family is my great grandmother Katherine Lacey who is descended from Richard Lacey, a immigrant from the Isle of Wight.He born in 1735 and died
in 1811 in Huntingdon New Jersey U.S.A. Do you have any information on him?Family lore says that his ancestor was a surety of the Magna Charta.Thank You! I like your website. Reply from Roy. Hi Larry welcome. The de Lacy you are referring to was Baron John de Lacy his son Edmond followed then Henry de Lacy. Both John and Henry became Earl of Lincoln. When you read the history of Henry there is a reference that might help your search.
Tommy De Lacey September 2017 Firstly, Great work on the site. Reading through the family tree page, I came across a comment from: Joseph de Lacey Ireland, Jan 31st 2017 re his great grandmother Matilda Fair. I have just started putting together our family tree and discovered some old photos, one is a picture of Matilda Fair circa 1910, with her son Christopher who is my grandfather. Joseph might like to have a copy so please find one attached. Reply from Roy. This is getting exciting! First check out 'Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017' shown below . Then check out the three photos my father and General Sir George de Lacy Evens shown above Then Matilda Fair shown here. The de Lacy Chin?
Ian Lacy-Smith, UK July 2017. Has anyone come across the book "FOLLOWING THE LACY TRAIL" (author unknown but may be American). It contains information on an early Californian entrepreneur William Lacy (1837-1897) and his large family. William emigrated from London to Illinois in 1860 and later moved to California where he became involved in many different ventures. William was a son of Richard Lacy (1802-1852) of Macroom, Ireland and London who is one of my greatgreatgrandfathers. Reply from Roy I was able to verify your facts Ian but was unable to trace the book, shame it sounds interesting. William eventually died in Mexico. My search suggests it was Richard who had the large family.
George Walker, Santa Maria CA. July 2017 Greetings from America! My name is George Walker, I live in Santa Maria CA. My Aunt and Grandmother had recently move close to my home for health reasons, and in their move they had handed over to me a bundle of family trees and history booklets of our family. My grandmother's name is Mary-Lacy, and my Aunt name is Lacy, both had been given my Great Grandmother's maiden name Ethel Lacy. In a booklet, written by my Grandmother's cousin, William Decker, he writes mostly about the Lacy Family lineage in America. But in the first chapter we write about our family coming from the de Lacy lineage. Starting in Normandy, fighting with William in the battle of Hastings, moving into Ireland with the Norman conquest, and one James de Lacy migrating to Virginia in 1691 after the second siege of Limerick. I was wondering is you had any connection to the families that left to America at that time. Reply from Roy. The book 'de Lacy Chronicles' contains details of a James de Lacy of Virginia, but his story is set in 1823-1906. He may be a descendant of your James.
Justin de Lacy, Moorooduc, Victoria, Australia. July 2017
I've just become aware of your site / book / research. I'd like to discover more about my family, in particular how the de Lacy name made it to Australia! One day I'd like to visit the ancestral homeland of my family, and meet family I never knew... Your research will help a lot! Reply from Roy. There are clues in all the de Lacy Family Generations. If you can trace if your ancestors, emigrated to Australia, from England or Irelandthis will help you reduce your search area. Good luck.
Bill Hobday UK May12th 2017 During my research, I have come upon different theories regarding the Cromwellbottom line. One, that they are descended from the original "legitimate" John Lacy through his son Robert de Lacy. Two, that they are descended from the "illegitimate" John de Lacy. However, the illegitimate John received a grant of lands in Grantchester. Descendants, such as Edmund and John are listed in various pedigrees for the Lacy's of Grantchester. If this is accurate, then who was the progenitor of the Cromwellbottom line? The family histories I have read in ancestry.com are all over the place in regard to persons, dates, etc., so a hot spot it remains! Thanks again for all the researching you have done, you have brought this family back to life. Reply from Roy Certainly, you are researching a "Hot Spot" for de Lacy descendants including Henry de Lacy Earl of Lincoln, and your target John de Lacy. However, the coat of Arms does not give conclusive proof. The registration of coats of arms did not start till much later. So someone with a tenuous link may take a fancy to their personal use. And, how should I react being descended from an illegitimate branch? There is no need to react to historical illegitimacy. This was a big stick created by The Church and Throne to help retain power. Illegitimacy is out of date in a modern secular society.
Janice Williams, UK. April 2017 Congratulations on a well researched and presented history of the de Lacy family. I found it really easy to follow. The Datelines of the various monarchs were very helpful as were the details of each de Lacy mentioned. After reading your book I want to find out more about John Lacy, Clothworker of London, and a favourite of Queen Elizabeth 1. You mention in your book that he was possibly the John Lacy she sent to Ireland. Reply from Roy Thank you for your kind comments on 'de Lacy Chronicles' . Ha's anyone else have any knowledge of John de Lacy? This is a second request for this name in de Lacy history.
Brian Patrick De Lacy, South Africa + Dublin 31st March 17 I am from South Africa. My father's name was James George De Lacy. His grandfather (my great grandfather) was from Ireland and emigrated to South Africa. My father passed away in the 1980's and I never had the opportunity to get any heritage details from him. My brother James Terrence De Lacy is now living in Dublin and we are trying to get some direction on our heritage. My fathers father, my grandfather, passed away when my father was 4 years old.
My mother was born in Ireland and emigrated with her family to South Africa when she was in her teens. In anyone can provide me any info or direction on how to access my De Lacy heritage it will be appreciated. Reply from Roy, There are other entries which relate back to Dublin within these comments. good luck with your search. Please refer back any progress that can be shared.
Lisa Reeves, UK 2nd March 2017 Hi...I have in my family tree a maud de lacy marrying a Richard de fitton.......does anyone know of this is correct and any info on the link with these two families? Thank you. Reply from Roy,
I have checked out the de Mitton family as the nearest link. I think possibly you have been given wrong dates. There are a number of Maud de Lacy's in the book but none married to a Richard de Fitton. Can anybody help with more information for Lisa?
Question from Bill Hobday Feb 19th Hi Bill, Your question: He refers to the "Yorkshire" line of Lacy's-could you relate any information you have regarding that line, as it might be a clue to the Northumbrian Lacy's. The Yorkshire de Lacy's were the ( poorly recorded) descendants of retainers and Knights who came to Pontefract Castle Yorkshire with Ilbert de Lacy from Lassy in Normandy the 1st Baron of the Honour of Pontefract. Unfortunately, the direct descendants of Ilbert came to an end in 1311. Sorry, I can add no more at this stage I will post the question on the de Lacy Family tree page we may both find a response.
Joseph de Lacey Ireland Jan 31st, 2017 I have read your blog, and it is great. My family are from Dublin, and it may be that we are related. Great Grandfather was Christopher de Lacy and Grandfather was James, Great Grandmother was Matilda Fair. Recognise anyone? My daughter has that chin as does my nephew, she thanks me every time. Keep up the very good work, Joe Reply from Roy Thank you, Joe. My personal family tree has suffered some neglect with my involvement in Medieval times having taken president. I have just looked back at the de Lacy tree page on the website and my father's picture and his chin, I see what you mean! When I get a chance I will look back at my early notes; the name James rings a bell.
Linda Rabineau, Pennsylvania, USA. Jan 31st 2017 I am researching the de Lacy line that resided in Barbados, West Indies during the 1640's through the early 1700's. The Widow Mary de Lacy was brought to America in the early 1700's by Stephen Griffin of Simsbury CT. De Lacy was her first husband's surname and was said to be quite wealthy and of Spanish/Portuguese descent. Hoping to finally find someone that may help me bring this line of Lacy's into the European line and find the given name of her first husband most of all. Oral tradition says that Stephen brought the Widow de Lacy to America after she had nursed him back to health while becoming ill in Barbados. He married the Widow and brought her and her two daughters,
Martha and Mary with her. This information comes to me from the notes of Albert C Bates, a local historian of Simsbury CT who interviewed Lester Griffin (the great grandson of Stephen Griffin). I have a tree, open to the public, BACON and GRIFFIN family tree, on Ancestry, user ID is Rabi51, and welcome anyone wanting to look at it Reply From Roy First the positive part. There are close links to the de Lacy family in Spain. Not just Spanish National heroes like Field Marshall Luis de Lacy there is a chapter in De Lacy Chronicles which covers his adventures and eventual fate. He and many of his contemporizes were descendants of Irish stock who left Ireland to join the Irish Brigade in Europe. From the English branch of the family, there were de Lacy's who fled and settled in Spain to escape the wrath of King John in the twelfth century. All of which gives credence to the husband of Widow de Lacy being Spanish. Given the involvement of Spain in and about South America at times strengthens the reason why they may have been there. The negative part is Linda, sorry I can offer no information about the Griffin Family but good luck in your search.
From Ron Lacy (USA) Jan 14th, 2017 If the Normans are of the small Tribe of Benjamin in Israel . The tribe of Benjamin were with the tribe of Judah together in Yahrusalem, who fought the 10 tribes of Israel in Samaria. Benjamin were only of 26,000 men, while the other 10 had 410,000 fighting there own brothers, whom the smaller defeated the larger twice! There had to be marriages between Judah and Benjamin. So the DeLacys (Lacys) will also be Jewish, plus what ever region we all setteled in , world wide. My family settled in Ireland, USA, England, Scotland , Czechlosavakia (spelling)? ., my DNA says Jewish., also Spain, Italy, Russia. Somewhere I read that the name Lacy meant Delta, and Deadly. my first name Ronald means mighty ruler, hence "Deadly Mighty Ruler". I didn't make this up! Ronald Lacy Toledo, Ohio. I have bought 4 of your DLC books. Reply by Roy Thank you, Ron, for your interesting comment. From my years researching the de Lacy family I have learned not to be surprised at any possible theory's regarding first, the medieval de Lacy family's origins their place in Norman history and finally the Norman place in Viking History. You are now offering a theory travelling back over a further two thousand years into the origins of the de Lacy family connecting its past with the twelfth biblical tribe of Israel. Out of my range of thinking Ron but it would be interesting if anyone else can add to Ron's theory.
Archive Comments Pre-Dec 31st 2016
Christopher Alan Lacey Bevan Dec 31st, 2016
Hello Roy, re Lacy origins in Norway I finally received my DNA testing kit and am awaiting results in about a month. I will let you know if there are in fact any links to Norway.
Reply by Roy
Please do, I am sure many members of the greater Lacy family will be pleased to learn how you get on.
Chris Lacey Bevan UK. 18th December 2016
I am currently enjoying the 'de Lacy Chronicles' and will be buying more copies for my family. It is a fascinating book and I was intrigued by the family going back to Norway. I have visited the Scandinavian countries several times and hope to return as I loved them. I wonder which part of Norway the family ancestors came from?
The book really brings the family to life.
I was in Vienna recently doing research on a book I am writing on the travels of Elisabeth, Empress of Austria. I found the Schloss where Franz Moritz is buried but unfortunately did not have a chance to see his grave. I have been to St Petersburg but whilst there I did not know about the connection with his father.
Meanwhile congratulations on an excellent book and I look forward to a visit to Pontefract.
Reply from Roy:
Thanks for your kind words Chris. My nearest research was Lassy, Jarl of Clan Lassy. originated in Southern Norway. The name Lassy was quite common in early medieval Scandinavia. There is also a comment from Chris on the welcome page.
Jennifer E. Lacy. Sept 16 2016
You are speaking of my father, Roy Arthur Lacy, who died over 20 years ago in Atlanta, Georgia. I am his daughter, Jennifer E. Lacy. If you are his brother, you must be Ron Lacy, whom I haven't seen nor heard from in over 25 years.
Jennifer Lacy a month ago(Sept 16)
Colleen Nov 2016
I am enjoying reading your book. I , too, have done a lot of research on the de Lacy family and love the way you lay it all out
so clearly and concisely. My own grandfather was Edward Dashwood de Lacy born in 1866 in Richmond, England -
his father was Edward de Lacy of Dublin Ireland. I am also interested in the Dashwood link to my family - probably on the
distaff side.. do you have any info in this regard (re Dashwood)? a month ago from Colleen http://theboardmanfamily.tribalpages.com
Reply from Roy
Thank you for your kind comments about the book. My own research into the de Lacy family moved too quickly to allow time for other than the main characters within the book, including the neglect of my personal Lacy family. So I have no information regarding Dashwood de Lacy. Good luck with your search. Let me know how you get on....Roy
Jennifer. Nov 2016
Really enjoying reading through your book. I am enjoying all of the information, but I do wish you would have added some pictures of the castles, maps of our lands, our family crest, the Lacy Knot (heraldic knot), etc. I also wonder if you included the information about Elizabeth de Burgh, one of the de Lacy grandaughters (Walder de Lacy line, Egidia de Lacy, Lady of Connacht). She married King Robert the Bruce of Scotland and was Queen. I also wanted to inform you of a very small typographical error on p. 142 (year 2013 was listed instead 1813). While I do wish there were some pictures, I am very grateful to have this information and am thankful that I found your book and website. Thank you. Nov 2016
Reply from Roy
Hi, Jennifer, So pleased you found 'de Lacy Chronicles an enjoyable read Your not alone in feeling the lack of pictures within the book I too was frustrated that I was unable to add them. My aim was to produce an easy read book with an impulse purchase price. With pictures in black & white which would not have done justice to the book, would have doubled the price to $19.99 and in colour to over $30. I solved this problem by setting up the free companion website to the book which will not only fill with colour pictures but allow everyone also to contribute their own, photos of de Lacy castles, etc. Please, not copies without copy writing consent.
Mea Culpa: Of course 1813 not 2013 on page 142. Sorry everybody. With a potted history of 29 de Lacy family’s in less than 161 pages i agree the de Lacy ladies received scant attention.Certainly, there is a fascinating story of the life of Egida de Lacy. Where there were size constraints on the book, I can happily continue growing the size of the website. If you or any other site visitor wish to contribute articles about the de Lacy ladies I will gladly create a new website page 'de Lacy Ladies'. Own work please, Copy without permission can not be accepted.Nov 2016 Roy A Lacy
Lynn (Australia) November 2016
I am descendent from a John De Lacey from Ireland born about 1800 who also lived in Nova Scotia. He married a lass from Wexford Ireland - Catherine Cowman. Have you come across any DeLacey descendants, spelt as such, in your research? We seem to have hit a blank wall. Is it possible it is a corrupted variant of the name DeLacy and not related at all? I've never been to Ireland and that may be the only way to clarify it. Looking forward to reading your book now it's available.
Regards Lynn (Australia) a month ago
Reply from Roy
Hi Lynn, During my research for 'de Lacy Chronicles I came across numerous ways of spelling de Lacy. Apart from one or two attempts dictionaries and Catalogues of names did not surface much before the 17th century. As for medieval days, when an individual abbot or monk would make their interpretation on how a name was spelt. Often they were wrong!So in your search don't let spelling stop your research. John de Lacy (or John Lacy) was a popular Lacy name. However, as a suggest in my book Irish family history before the 18th century is a grey area. Often better traced by places as well as names. Good luck with your search and remember "blind alleys are new starting places". Let us all know how you get on.
Jennifer Lacy, USA
Amazing to see your name and the "de Lacy Chronicles" while researching our Lacy / de Lacy heritage for my sons. I saw that your name is Roy A. Lacy and that was quite a shock as my dad was Roy A. Lacy, the A as initial for Arthur. I also see a very recent message from my Uncle Ron Lacy (my father's brother) posted just 19 days ago. I guess we are all interested in our de Lacy ancestral heritage. My father, who is now deceased for over 25 years, was born in Ohio, United States. I haven't researched further than my grandfather, but will try to research further. Very happy to purchase your book and read up on the de Lacy history! a month ago
Roys Reply. Nov 2016
How marvellous to see two branches of the same first generation coming together on the de Lacy Chronicles website. Keep us informed if there are any further developments. Arthur was an excellent name for your father; mine is Albert a name I hated at one time and refused to use the A in Roy A Lacy. Now in my older years, I am quite proud of the history behind my middle name. Hence with pride, I sign my book Roy A Lacy
This is very strange for me because I had a brother named Roy A Lacy who died years ago in Atlanta Ga. He worked for Delta Air Lines, 25 years in Atlanta , USA. His middle name was Arthur. I have known about my name Lacy since I was 10. I am now age 80. Born in 1936. I have my DNA with results being that of Ireland, Czechoslovakia, Russia,Greece-Spain, Norway (Vikings), Benyamin, and Yahudah ,(Judah). French , Scot, English. Interesting - YES. More of Irish ( which is of the tribe of Judah) and Normandy French of Benjamin ( of the Vikings of Norway), which came from Jerusalem ( Judah and Benjamin). This is a little bit about my family and me.. Oct 2016
David Lacey Aug 16
Hi Roy we are going to England September 22 for 3 weeks to check out the Lacey castles and history. I have been trying to do a family history but can't seem to get past my grandfather who was born in London as Edward George Lacey in 1892 in Plaistow. His father and mother are James Murray Lacey and Lucy Sarah Lacey formerly Wyeth. Can't find anything more on them. My Grandfather told me when he was alive that his father James was a journalist and was a runner for Churchill during the boer war, other than that I don't know anything else. My grandfather emigrated to Canada with his two brothers in the early 1900's. Any suggestions you have on where I go from there would be appreciated. I don't know if your book would tie in with my relations but I have ordered it today and looking forward to reading it. Thanks David Lacey Aug 16
Roys reply
Hi David Thank you for purchasing the book. You may find that your family tree is still rooted in England rather than the usual path of Ireland. This is only an assumption based upon your name being spelt Lacey which has been more prevalent here since Tudor times. Even more so if your family were (are) Protestant.
The English Baronial family died out in the early 14th century but there are some clues to be found. Read about Henry de Lacy Aug 2016